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Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« on: December 10, 2008, 01:31:17 PM »

Hey,
We're getting reviewed again, nobody seems too interested. They still just hatin' on us.

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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 02:07:44 PM »

Why hatin'?
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 02:53:24 PM »

I dunno, they're just bringing up stupid shit like our name and why we ride motorized bicycles.
No one seems too interested in us though.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 02:59:15 PM »

Motorized bicycles are a problem?  So they're being elitest about moped styles?  Awesome.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 03:12:25 PM »

I guess I have to hide the solexi and rex when we apply.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 03:19:12 PM »

Hey Mike , didnt get to see you whilst you were in town, I take it you were well accomidated...see you next time...

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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 11:27:05 PM »

I dunno... I'm kind of getting the impression that being hated on is half the point of this. They say it's to "ask questions" and "get to know you," but those seem like they could be euphemisms for "hate on prospective groups" and "talk shit." I mean, some people are positive, being nice, and asking real questions, but others...

So far, the run down has gone something like this:

Them: Why do you even want to be a branch? Most of your members aren't even very active on the site.
Us: That doesn't mean they don't ride

Them: Do you still have members who don't ride actual mopeds?
Us: No. There have never been people on scooters. There was a motorized bicycle for a while, but mopeds are above that now.

Them: What do you do if  you don't get in this year?
Us: Same thing as always. (Good response BTW Mike)

Them: That was lame in Kzoo when that guy ran out of gas and said he'd put gas in his moped
Us: (Okay, Ed wrote this) "Cmon the guy ran out of gas and thought he put some in, its not like he lied about a blowjob. Nobody runs out of gas on purpose."

Them: Why do you have such a shitty name? / I keep wanting to call you something else
Us: (I'm not sure we've completely responded to this yet)

Them: Head mechanic? Why don't you fix your own bikes?
Us: We do, although sometimes there are things you need help with or you don't have the tools to complete on your own.

Them: Kansas and Missouri are crappy states. "Kansas City, Missouri" represents both states. Is there anything cool about where you live?
Us: Yes.
Me: Hey now! That's my state you're talking about!

Other somewhat random topics:
1) John Hughes films
2) The Republic Tigers
3) The Main Street Saints

I agree with Mike though... there isn't that much interest.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2008, 11:34:27 PM »

See, the thing is...why does it really matter?  There's no real benefit to being a member, except for a logo next to your name on MA.  If people are going to respect you, they'll respect you logo or not.

Well, I guess you get access to a member only forum.  Which really, the gangs should make themselves.

And uh...you might actually get the parts you order from 1977 if you're a member...maybe.

Why do you want to be members anyways?  100% just out of curiosity.  I think if IRE applies it will be one of those "Hey, aren't applications due tomorrow?"  "Oh, yeah!  Lets get some beer and fill out some crap."  I don't think many, if any, of us care.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2008, 05:35:02 AM »

I ended up emailing  Harold back in the day ( uh like 5 months ago actually ) I was trying to corner him on why would you want to be in the MA, you know, whats the benifit? He was cool and wrote explaining why (let me just say if all MA were people like Harold & the Creatures, it would be rad ...but most dont do cool shit like ride mopeds to South America!) .
 From what I understood, is that if you are IN, people will lend you money and let you crash on a couch in thier city. Fine, so let me see if I get this straight, if Im in MA people I dont know will ask me for money and crash at my house???...awesome!

Oh and you get the cute little icon...which is the MAIN reason to be in MA in my humble opinion.

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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2008, 08:25:52 AM »

Getting mad at someone for running out of gas. That makes me want to go to a rally. Are the gangs on MA really that rude. They dont get any brownie points from me for dissing my state. I am learning that MO is one of the best states to own a ped. I know MIDMI-PEDS reps it hard (well the 4 riding members do.) We skip work to work on your rides. We hang out and ride aleast 2-3 times a weak no matter how cold it is. We respect or fellow peders. I want to thank you all for being nice to me when I showed up with a noped at your rally.( I geuss you could have been a dick to me). MO ped riders should start a blood to their crips.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 08:31:47 AM »

We've hosted a bunch of mopedders from out of town.  You don't need an icon to have that.  If you ride a moped, and seek out other pedders to crash/chill with while you're traveling, you're probably cool.  That has worked out so far.

I didn't know Malaguti before I told him he could crash at our place.

We didn't know Taylor or Sheila before our rally.  I mean, I know that was a rally so you're supposed to have strangers come, but they were cool.

We didn't know any of the Cuperteens that crashed at Tom's before then.

Dudes from Columbia have showed up a couple times.

Hell, we didn't know any of the Breakfast Mafia before we went to Kzoo with all of you, and you guys went out of the way to pick us up, and set up hotels and shit.

I see MA as a frat.  Can you go to college and have fun without joining a frat?  Yes.  Can you go to frat parties, have fun there, but not be part of the frat?  Yes.  You just don't get to wear some greek letters on your hoodie.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 11:55:19 AM »

yea i run out of gas all the time  .... but i always wonted to be in a frat gess ill have to wate till collage
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 12:23:19 PM »

IRE is a frat,, all we need is a secret handshake.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 01:39:44 PM »

I think you're all focusing on the terrible parts of MA and not the good ones.

Remember when that Local Hero seized his kit and was like "I need a cylinder" and he was presented with one, then IRE swooped in with tools?

How about when I broke down B.M. helped out with the break down and other riders came and stopped because there was a pack instead of just blasting by?

All the great advice? All the hilariousness at ensues?

Sure, groupthink leads to some shit heads and elitism, but you'll find that in any group, even our own.

I think it would be rad to be guaranteed a spot to stay and bike to ride and cheap parts.

Too much emphasis is put on the logo by the name, but fuck it.

It's just my $0.02.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2008, 02:37:26 PM »

you shithead, I can't believe I almost let you talk me into gettin a tattoo.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2008, 03:20:32 PM »

Which one of us is the shithead?

You should still get an IRE tattoo!  We're not the same as MA.  We're different.  Tight.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2008, 03:39:01 PM »

shitheads    I want a logo next to my name on MA
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2008, 04:19:44 PM »

Okay, fine.  Logos for everyone.
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2008, 04:27:38 PM »

yeah shitheads
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2008, 04:31:42 PM »

i want mine now, how do I do it, push profile, then change then,,, Mike put a little thingy there for me here....
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2008, 12:01:07 AM »

Its a process, kind of mild internet hazing, nothing too exciting this year. Most of last years shenanigans were quickly apologized for when we showed up in Kzoo, I'm thinking we were unexpected. It all goes back to when the MA decided to spread beyond Michigan and the chartering rules were so lax that they had like 200 branches overnight and most of them were a couple of guys at a college. So being a member was not as valued or valuable. A month might go by and a bike breaks down, no gang in Podunk, MT. Ultimately  Simon revised the process, instituted branch reviews to weed out the 12 yr old New Jersey kids and the I just graduated and moved crowd, to get to the dedicated moped rider in a group of 5 or more that will be there the next year. It kind of like watching sausage get made-Bangers
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2008, 01:04:07 AM »

lots of pork skin?
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2008, 01:24:45 AM »

Well, I think to be a member you do need to prove that you're sticking around.  Which should be obvious.  But as IRE has found, setting a rigid membership criteria is hard since everyone contributes differently.  So I do appreciate the vagueness of the MA membership deal, but at the same time it's sort of a popularity contest.  But so is all democracy...
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2008, 12:30:22 PM »

From what i've seen on some of the MA forums, the majority of the members don't want any one new in 08,
but there are a few people standing up for new prospective branches. It's kinda stupid and I didn't really want to apply, but since we applied, I kinda had to get in it. You guys can read the entire thread, it's on the front page.

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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2008, 02:11:00 PM »

I guess while I was out in Cali they had this meeting. I was never given a chance to be in the Breakfast Mafia. I hung out with everyone for a few months but I lost touch when I moved, and no one really told me "hey, you wanna be part of our crew".

I like everyone that hangs out and they are all great people. But to have to answer some lameass questions just to get a little star next to your name on their website isnt really worth the trouble. I have found more than enough "Non MA" groups who have put me up, smoked me out, taken me on badass journey's, and generally been great people. I have yet to meet anyone who claimed themself as a "real" member. I mean, shit the spokesmen are cool as shit, they dont have a star and they have a place to work and lots of people who ride year round. You guys in IRE has the same deal with sweet peds, Marks place, thursday rides, sunday fix its. I always used to go to Sunday fix its either in KC or STL, and most of the time I ended up riding in KC on Sunday.

All in all I dont really care about being "official". I just think its cool that people have gang names so you can associate with people at a rally. Maybe someone will start a gang called the needledicks... maybe MA will like that name more than Breakfastmafia.

Where is this thread you speak of... I would like to know more info on what happened while I was gone.

Next week Linda and myself are going riding once she gets back in town. Then I should be in STL for Christmas... so I am gonna try and hang with you guys. Plus I wanna see that Rad new Foxi that Jimmy picked up. Mine is a lot like his but I paid lots of money and mine is jank as hell.

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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2008, 03:34:39 PM »

yeah, nevermind about the thread, it's on the Member's front page, not the General front page...
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2008, 04:24:16 PM »

I can't pretend like you guys don't have valid criticisms. I mean, no, you don't need to be an official member to be a cool person, to enjoy riding mopeds, to help out your fellow mopedders, to be helped out by your fellow mopedders, to be trusted or liked, or anything else. Hell, IRE proves that, the BM proves that, the Spokesmen (who are also applying) prove that, and a bunch of other unofficial gangs and unaffiliated people prove that.

So yeah, if you're a member, you get a fun little icon next to your name. You get access to the members forums (although this forum proves that you don't need to be an official branch to have a bombin' group forum). You get crash space at rallies and other members are likely to trust you (even if they don't know you) because you're also a member (and probably also because it's easier to hold you accountable). Is that worth the hazing and hating? Apparently it is to some people, or else there wouldn't be branches applying and there wouldn't be a lot of the current branches.

The whole logo-next-to-the-name thing is/can be kind of elitist, yes. But it also says two things, at least in my opinion. 1) It says "I'm dedicated to this whole moped thing. 2) It says, "There are people who know me in real life who think I'm a pretty cool dude/lady dude." Can you be dedicated and cool without a logo? Absolutely. Does having a logo next to your name mean you're never stupid or an asshole? Absolutely not. But it's still a symbol for something, and I think that something is more positive than negative (assuming we can ignore the elitism that tags along with the symbol).

I'm not sure which viewpoint I'm really with here, because you guys have really good arguments, but I still feel like there IS (must be?) a good reason to apply. So yeah, I'm a fence sitter, and now you've gotten to enjoy my ramblings of the day.

And about dissing Missouri ... if it makes you feel any better, they said that Kansas was actually the worst state. Missouri was only second worst.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2008, 12:23:18 AM »

I think Jersey still gets it though.
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2008, 02:13:08 AM »

Well nobody got in this year. Everyone reacts differently to stress, and this year has been pretty bad, attendance at some of the rallies was down by half. With jobs and money in tight supply, some are more comfortable just trying to hold on to what they have. Most of the gangs applying were in "fly-over" country, even Kzoo has trouble economically supporting what is becoming a West Coastcentric phenomenon. What we do in the midwest is of little import to the coasts, perhaps we should tend more closely to our own regional affairs. -Bangers
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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2008, 03:37:57 AM »

Wow.

Thats, fucking ridiculous, and incredible at the same time. To have the gall to not let any gangs in, and then to put it on being a "west coast" phenomenon is absolutely amazing to me. Interesting choice.

We've been talking about doing a "meet us halfway" ride / weekend, in Columbia, would you guys be interested? Probably wouldn't happen until spring though.
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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2008, 09:28:30 AM »

I was pretty surprised to see nobody get in, especially the Spokesmen, since they seemed to have the most support based on what I could see. I have lots of things I could say, but which I will not, because I do not have the full story or full set of opinions on anything (and I probably never will.)

I think Ed's right about the West-Coast thing. Everyone says that Kzoo is the rally "everyone" goes to, but didn't more people show up at Gender Bender? There are so many people and so many riders out west that just logistically speaking, their rallies are going to get more attendees and their gangs are going to be larger. Just as it's hard for the west coast gangs to get out to the midwest, it's hard for the midwest gangs to get out to the west coast. Since the midwest gangs are the unofficial ones here, the onus is kind of on us to get moving and get out there to go riding, not the other way around. That's not to say it can't be done (case in point: The Buffalo Boys) but apparently this year was just special. Either way, it doesn't ruin my fun one bit.

I vote YES!! to a Columbia ride, although I'm going to have a terrible time trying to decide whether to deck myself out in KU gear or to play it safe with some more neutral shades...
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2008, 10:52:54 AM »

The same thing plays out in scooter world too. The coasts have a much more dense population, closer distances between cities, and especially for the West coast, much better year-round riding weather. It also doesn't hurt that there's much more going on culturally, like music, arts. etc. which can help keep a scene like mopeds or scooters alive too.
Fuck the West coast. Mid-coast Mopeds is where it's at.
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Re: Breakfast Mafia under new branch review
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2008, 02:18:25 PM »

MID COAST 4 Life!

If MA straightens thier snobby shit out, we might ask them to join us next year!

Shit what they got that we dont?

I need a jet, got one. I need welding, done.
We got a large group in IRE, about 20 hardcore and 10-15 floaties...BM in KC has about 20 - 30...all across MO there is about 50-75 hardcore riders!

Fuck the coasties!

If you ride Mopeds all year round in The MIdCoast , you automiatically rule the pampered coasties!
Lets see them ride in the snow, work on peds in 0 degrees!
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