Topic: got to set the timing! (Read 548 times)

worthlessckfsht033 · « **on:** January 02, 2010, 04:43:25 PM »

fuck it, it's probably fine.

Scooter Trash · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2010, 06:19:49 PM »

you ain't kiddin, fuck it! haha

Bangers · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2010, 06:33:06 PM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEARS-ALLSTATE-%2F-PUCH-250-TWINGLE-PARTS-%2F-SHOP-MANUAL_W0QQitemZ250546936015QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091213?IMSfp=TL0912130110005r29437

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2010, 10:26:46 PM »

Ed, I shouda figured. Thats not the right model, but its close enough.
got any leads on a low budget version of said manual?
I need every penny for the powder coating oven.

Bangers · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2010, 01:52:45 PM »

Whats the model?

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2010, 04:34:48 PM »

its a 250, not the "SGS". but the other one is cool. really.
I just don't see 15 dollars American in it right now.

on the other hand any info on this turd would help.

Bangers · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2010, 01:32:29 AM »

chasin down a lead. I'll get back to you.

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2010, 01:58:10 AM »

ok, how about a 250cc Kawasaki mill?
Chuck's bro says he has one in japan, but that's to far away.
that 250 makes between 30-40 hp, this one's a slug 14 hp!

Bangers · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2010, 02:12:29 AM »

You want a Kaw build a Kaw. 14 hp is plenty and the Puch 250 is rare, nobody says WOW a Kawasaki.

brystheguy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:40:49 PM »

There's instructions on how to set the timing on the Motor West site.

Did I miss pictures of the whole thing?

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:19:43 PM »

I was just poking at the moped community, I have never seen anything like this. the timing "is " probably fine.
and yes the pictures are here somewhere, but Chuck told me YOU worked on this very bike at some point.
so you should know what it looks like, right?

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 14, 2010, 06:58:17 PM »

ED: this engine is a time bomb, they de-tuned this piece of shit on purpose.
the 175 has 11.5 to 1 compression and makes 16 hp.
this thing has 6.5 to 1, its junk!
14 hp x 300 lbs = turd
it's no wonder you cant get parts, or info on these things. nobody wants one!
puch made like 6 motorcycles, in that era. Honda made over 200.

brystheguy · « **Reply #12 on:** January 14, 2010, 11:57:01 PM »

Nope, I never worked on that bike. I still have my four Twingles and have yet to sell one. She just asked me about it before purchasing and was going to send a picture but I never got one. So any jankiness on that bike can not be attributed to me! Square tank or round?

Bangers · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2010, 12:36:33 AM »

The Germans of the time considered the U.S. market a third world in its gasoline quality and so gave us the low compression pistons. My 72 Mercedes has 7:1 compression ratio. It means the engine outlasts the frame.

brystheguy · « **Reply #14 on:** January 15, 2010, 02:19:39 PM »

They might not be the fastest but the torque on them is amazing!

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 15, 2010, 03:53:42 PM »

so. . .can I get German pistons and slap em in there? or am I milling down the jug!

Bry. this thing isn't "janki" it just needs the paint and chrome cleaned up (Ok it needs a paint job, and most of the chrome is missing)

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 04, 2010, 02:41:13 PM »

sweet zombie Jesus! this thing is FAST!

and it sounds like a gigantic moped.

desperado · « **Reply #17 on:** April 04, 2010, 09:27:48 PM »

you got it running? gps it yet?

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2010, 06:42:41 PM »

no gps yet, the spedo works.
I passed chuck at 60 last night, but I was holding back a little.

Ill gps it one of these nights.

GARzan Justin · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2010, 08:09:10 PM »

Is Chuck still on the Hobbit? Aren't you the one that always said it's impossible to make Hobbits go faster than 45?

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06, 2010, 07:25:06 AM »

we found a way, chucks bike basically has a 3 speed now

GARzan Justin · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2010, 02:39:11 PM »

How's that? Isn't it variated?

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 07, 2010, 05:26:01 PM »

yes, but you have to understand how a variator works to "get it".

Garett · « **Reply #23 on:** April 07, 2010, 05:47:41 PM »

Give us a hint.

GARzan Justin · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2010, 07:10:51 PM »

Oh, yeah, you're right. I wouldn't understand variators. I mean, why have three, segmented "speeds", when your bike could just be at the optimal rpm range all the time? I must've had it all wrong.

In any case, the number of "speeds" you might be able to invent doesn't change the final drive ratio at full variation, which was your reasoning for the Hobbit "speed cap".

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 07, 2010, 08:35:40 PM »

run that by me again. .

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 07, 2010, 08:46:51 PM »

OK what I mean is how THIS variator works, and not everybodyelse's

it's basically, low range, straight to hi range, and then when hi range tops out THEN the belt flops up onto the outer ridge of the front pulley. this is the "theoretical third" gear I was referring to.

if you follow this thing in a car for a few hundred miles you can really get it in your head that this thing actually has "gears"

Race Preppin' Mike · « **Reply #27 on:** April 08, 2010, 06:56:26 AM »

Matt, what Justin is saying is that if your variator was working smoothly, your bike would have the same exact performance as it does now, but not feel like it has "gears". because at the end of the day, it's still just a weight on a ramp acting upon RPM. Not saying there's anything wrong with that variator because it's obviously working, but the weights hanging up right before the notched part is what's causing your "gear" feeling. Same thing goes for the drive ratio, if it "shifts" into third
or it gets there smoothly without you feeling it, the drive ratio is still the same = Belt is on top of the vario, and bottom of the drive pulley.

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 08, 2010, 06:49:29 PM »

hay mike I dropped the oil pan on a car today (it had a hole in it ), and there was a fuckin timing chain laying it there!

god only knows how long it had been like that, seamed to run fine to me

Race Preppin' Mike · « **Reply #29 on:** April 08, 2010, 09:50:48 PM »

Haha! That's where they keep the spare.

worthlessckfsht033 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 10, 2010, 02:03:22 AM »

No shit, well I kept it.

I'm gonna keep it for my wall of shame!

that thing probably sat in there for 50,000 miles.

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